Manifest Sons of God
April 8, 2004 – Again visions in the night of the Love of God and the Compassion of Christ. With all my heart I wish I could carry this in a waking state, as I know it is the only power there can be to deliver those in bondage. I have had these visions repeated over many years, but it seems this last year in particular they have been more specific and riddled with representative images. For now they serve to show me the Nature of God that is far beyond what is in me. They serve as prayers I feel go up to the throne of God and they serve to show me how much I come up short in any of my own efforts toward any form of ministry I might undertake. Every act I do in the name of ministry that is without this Love of God and Compassion of Christ is likely of my own making – therefore, I cannot actually look back and identify any ministry I have done that has come from the heart of God as I know these visions have shown me.
This level of power and love I am not able to say is an anointing or a “double portion” – it is the fullness of Christ that comes in, and it comes in fullness and not in part. This is what I would expect would be the mantle upon what has come to be termed “Manifest Sons of God”. This term, of course, has gotten a bad name, because of those who claimed the title and position for themselves and went about doing destructive things, as is the case with all the “would be” spiritual giants who are so self deluded. But, as I have stated in the past, just because one rises up that is false is not to dispel the reality that there will yet be the real. So I feel this is true of what I continue to see in visions in the night. I believe there will be a company of such persons who will walk in this full nature of Christ. I don’t have to call them “Manifest Sons of God” or anything else. I will only say, for a lack of a better term, it would best fit what I have experienced. I will also not ascribe to the idea that I am called to be a “Manifest Son of God”. I believe simply that I have witnessed what it would be like and I feel totally ineffective in anything I might do until I could do such things in this manner. Every action is directed by the will of the Father. There is no self-will in the factor at all – there is merely a total submission of heart to express the Heart of God and the Nature of Christ as they are expressed in the Love of God and the Compassion of Christ. And all actions that were done in this manner were one hundred percent effectual. In that I mean that as one who is sick is touched they are healed instantly and totally. And when a demon is told to come out of a person it is without argument or conversation in the matter. It is the full Love, Compassion and Authority of God at work through human vessels doing what is the will of God in every detail. We cannot attain to this position by self-will or by ridding ourselves of all sin, as some believe they have accomplished. This state of being can only be by a miraculous translation from God.
I have to ask the question – if God has continually showed me such a state of being that He has, would it not be sensible to think that it is possible and may even be prophetic that it will come to pass? Would God continually and repeatedly show me the same scenarios of His Love and Compassion if such things were not true and possible? We are in all things corrupt and without Christ. We would stoop to every level of sin imaginable given enough time. Maybe that is why the life span of Man was shortened by the fall of Adam as a form of God’s Grace knowing that given so many years we would only add to the depths of sin one has already piled up. If God took away Jesus from us and the Holy Spirit from doing any further work we would all plunge into every depth of depravity that could be imagined. Those who say they would never be a child molester or murderer or drug addict or drunk – I say you are deluding yourself, because without God and by stirring you into the right conditions you will submit to every form of sin without exception. I will be making my point here soon – bare with me. The stink of your sins are no less pungent in the nostrils of God then are those of a child molester – in fact, for thinking you are so righteous in that manner – you may even stink worse – imagine that! We are sinners – ALL OF US WITHOUT EXCEPTION. It is all as a rotting corpse (I worked for the Coroner – thrust me, that’s getting about as bad as it gets). I am being purposely graphic here.
Now then we all have a portion of Christ working in us, keeping us from plunging into that pit of sin. If, as I depicted here, how we would plunge into complete indulgent sin were Christ totally taken from us – then what then would occur if Christ were totally given to us? Presently we have Christ in a measure. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is the “Down Payment” of our redemption, but what shall we be if Christ were fully given to us? To put it another way as I have said what would occur if we were plunged totally into sin without Christ – what would happen if we were totally plunged into the Holiness of God? What better term could be placed on it but the term “Manifest Sons of God” for that is precisely what it would be? There have been no manifest son’s of God throughout history that I am aware of, but Christ only. Rom 8:19 - For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. (KJV)
The above verse says that we “waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God”. So, we are waiting for something yet to be unveiled. I conclude there must still be something in the mysteries yet to be unveiled that this has to do with. I believe my night visions have alluded to these persons who will walk in this way and in this power and fullness of Christ. Just because I have had the visions of it does not mean that I will be one of them. God has not said to me that I will, but He has allowed me to taste of the difference it is to walk in this way compared to walking in our own wills. You cannot get from point “a” to point “b” by human efforts – it must, and can only be an act of God and a transformation by the power of God that could bring one into such a condition. This condition exists because I have repeatedly experienced it, but as yet have not had it remain in a waking state. There have been visions of this nature where a presence of that nature (anointing if you wish to call it that) did linger a number of days slowly subsiding and leaving me again. And I agonize over it leaving each time. I beg to keep it and for it to stay. But my hope is that such will be the portion of a chosen company of God, that they will walk in this manner – in the full nature of Christ and doing the will of the Father and healing the sick, raising the dead, casting out demons, but let me make this as clear as I can – THEIR MISSION AND GOSPEL WILL BE THE SALVATION OF MAN BY THE SHED BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST and the healings and miracles will NOT be the issue, but rather the confirmation of the message. We have gotten so sidetracked into making the healings and miracles the mission rather than the confirmation – because humanity wants to be “oood and aaawd”. These who will walk in this power will not be swayed by the miracles – to them they will simply be a natural occurrence of the Love of God in the confirmation of the message. There will be no great cathedrals or “ministries” built around or for these who will walk in such power doing such miracles. They will be about as common and unassuming as one may find.
Over the last couple years these visions have addressed certain nations or situations. One I had a couple years ago was totally about the First Nations Tribes – the Indians in America and the Love of God poured out toward them. Since then I have seen a lot of activity in that arena. Then I had one for the Country of India. The one I had last night was for Greeks, and again there are no words to describe the Love I had pouring out of me for the children. I surrounded myself with them and basked in the Love of God toward them like one would bask in the Son.
Maybe why God has given me these visions also was that I might pray continually for such a company to come forth – that God would raise up these who would walk in the fullness of Christ. It is for sure that I do pray that now in every waking minute of the day. It has taken from me what use to be the love of my own works now that I have a measure to compare it with – that is a good thing. I now desire to do very little in ministry unless it is about this level of Love and Compassion. I loved to prophecy and did so for many years and loved the anointing that I received in it, but it does not compare to what this is all about. I do not resist prophecy if it comes to me now, but it rarely does these days – even though these visions, I would think, are prophetic in essence. I pray this company is raised up. They will do in a day more than entire ministries have accomplished in full life times. Their witness will be powerful, their testimony will be sure and their words will be confirmed by the manifestations of power that will occur because of the presence of God in all of it. They won’t necessarily stand out as anyone special and may not walk down the street at night lighting up the night sky. They may be as usual as you can be – after all they looked at the Son of God to his face and into His eyes and still murmured, “Isn’t this just the carpenters’ son?” And yes – this company I pray will be raised up will be just that – they will just be “THE CARPENTERS’ SONS”.
I wish I could just wait upon the Lord until God gave me this transformation, not so I can be a “somebody”, but because I know the difference of our works compared to the works that are accomplished when they are in the will of God. Ours are futile, but His are complete and full of fruitfulness.
It is a state of being I cannot get to from here. It is a state that cannot be reached by any amount of prayer, bible reading, fasting or crying out. I am saved by the grace of God and the Blood of Christ, but I am still pretty much a scoundrel – so… I can’t get there from where I am, but in saying this to the Lord the other morning He also said this to me. “Getting from “a” to “b” is this = being in the grave is “a”, being resurrected is “b” – You can’t get there by your own means, but it is by my promise and the Power of God that resurrection has been promised and what I say I will do, I will do”. So then it is the same with this company of those who will walk in that full nature of Christ. “Greater things will they do, because He goes to the Father”.
I know there is a great deal of controversy about the “Manifest Sons of God” movement and I know that this revelation has attracted those who think they are it just as the “Two Witnesses” have brought forth several thousand “pairs” of those – but, as much as the real Two Witnesses of Revelation will come forth so I believe these will come forth as well, who will walk in the full nature of Christ. We have the revelation of a special group of chosen ones who are the 144,000 – again the Jehovah’s Witnesses believe they are the fulfillment of this, which is obviously not true, yet we still look forward to this number. It could be that what I keep having visions about is this group – I simply do not know. What I DO KNOW is that there is a state of being that is to exist in the full nature of Christ, exhibiting the Compassion of Christ and the Love of God that carries and exhibits the Power of God and the Authority of God. That state of being is the eventual state that we shall all come into, the difference being that some – a first fruits maybe – will come into that state of being while still upon the earth. It is not so hard to fathom as Jesus walked in this fullness yet he was still in the flesh, so why then should there not arise a company that will exist in the same fashion? I believe as we near the final days of Mans’ rule upon the earth this company will come forth. I believe they will arise just prior to the return of Christ so that the whole world might be evangelized in a manifestation of the full nature of Christ before the nations.
I am going to refer to another vision of this I had last year – although I did have this one while I was awake. I was in what was a convention center. Around me were 120 people all attempting to achieve “the fullness of Christ” that I am referring to. They were all aware of the “Manifest Sons of God” concept and were all trying various forms to achieve that state. Some were fasting very lengthy periods of time. Some were praying endless hours and some were endlessly reading and studying scripture. I witnessed those who were selling tape series and “How To Become A Manifest Son of God” books and tapes and many bought up the tapes and books and tried to put into practice all the formulas for achieving the state of being a Manifest Son of God, but, as I sat there watching all these antics go on, (on a stool doing absolutely nothing), I was arrayed in the garments of Son-ship. I was, in that scenario, a manifest son of God that all the rest were trying to achieve. Then some began to express their anger with me that I had been given that position when I had done nothing to earn it. It was true – I had done nothing in trying to attain the position. I did not try to make myself holy. God simply gave the order and the next thing I knew I was being given the royal robes of Son-ship and a ring of God’s authority and I simply “WAS” what I was – a child of God transformed into the fullness of Christ – call it whatever you like, but it surely did not make many very happy.
I watch some evangelists who do preach the “Manifest Sons of God” doctrine and I realize they have applied to themselves that they believe they are in that company, but what I also watch them do is preach to an auditorium full of people that they are chosen to be one as well – and they are all worked up in the ecstasy and expectancy of such a thing – and reality is – none of them will come into the fulfillment of it, because they have NOT been brought through the forging fires of learning it takes to qualify. It takes years in the wilderness of anguish and pain. It takes rejection by those most loved. It takes being sold as a slave by your own brothers – it takes a complete crushing of the heart so only the Heart of God can be left. It can be rather humorous at times to see the ones so disqualified, because of the obvious prideful desire of the flesh to become one. Again I wish to emphasize I am not stating that I am going to be a manifest son of God upon this earth. I would be a liar to say I would not like to be, because I have felt what it is like by way of these visions, but then David in the Psalms spoke as though seeing through the eyes of Christ – it did not mean that David was the Christ. So then – I can put no more expectations upon these visions that I will be a manifest son of God upon the earth than that – only I have been allowed to know, see and feel what it is like through such eyes. I know that when I go to Heaven I will be in that state as we all will, but it is true my desire would be that I could be transformed into that state while still here so that I might minister the gospel in the purity that I have come to know through these visions. I have come to see what it is to minister VOID of my own intentions and goals and how glorious it is to minister that which is from God and God alone – with nothing of myself in the mix at all.
I wish I could impute this experience to others. I wish I could pray and ask God to give these same visions and experiences to every Christian, because it brings such a realization of the difference between what we do in the flesh and what God can do in the Spirit. So let this be my prayer to all who may read this – that God may grant you this same kind of revelation and, if at all possible may he choose to give you His full measure upon the earth. I caution any to watch out for what they may covet in the kingdom, as you do not have an idea of the cost it may take. I suspect the positions of most respect in the kingdom of God will have required the greatest of sufferings in this world. Go watch “The Passion” and truly ask yourself if you could bear any portion of that agony and then ask yourself – do you still want to be a “Manifest Son of God” – You can see in that movie what it took for Christ – do you think it will be any less required of you to be filled with such a nature? I believe God will choose whom He will choose, but I also do not think He will choose from among any that have not been through His wilderness seminary. Who can take the suffering of Christ? – NOT ME! What portion am I willing to take of the suffering? – NONE OF IT! I’m not willing, but – to a small degree I know that I have endured a form of it however small that might be. I think we can all relate to being accused by the brethren of things we did not do or hurt by other Christians in ways that ONLY Christians know how to do with each other and I am sure we have seen and endured pain in varying degrees, but what will it be – how much will be required to be in this company of those who may walk in the fullness of Christ? It seems I cannot say enough about it.
The Manifest Sons of God seems to be the subject and the bottom line here. I have prayed asking for understanding on why I am finding myself writing about this and have come to understand maybe a few small things I feel is the Spirit answering me. One thing is that it seems to be a “heralding” – a proclamation of a time frame in which they may start coming on the scene. It is clear to me as well that just as this whole Two Witnesses phenomena that has come up, the enemy will use this as a trick to trap a multitude of people into thinking they are one of these chosen ones. One specific person comes to mind in this as he thought himself to be one of these chosen ones and in a few weeks time he went from being a person I thought I knew and thought was a friend to standing behind the pulpit demanding that those trying to run house churches should be rounded up and executed – OH YES! – You can very well believe the enemy will try use this one to raise up a company of self proclaimed lunatics that will likely – in the end be, not our brothers, but rather our executioners.
Again, in a vision, I saw two groups of people both claiming to be believers, but I knew one group was not telling the truth. I agonized over this vision for many weeks. In the one group there were preachers and teachers carrying bibles and preaching articulate sermons and had great cathedrals and had works for Christ going on all over the world. The other group were a group a ragamuffins in jeans, t-shirts, - greasy from their days work in some mechanic shop or what have you and carrying no bibles and preaching no sermons. Through those weeks I felt the Lord pressuring me to make a choice which group I wanted to be in, but I was agonizing, because I knew God had some wisdom about the matter I was lacking. I wanted to be with the band of preachers, because I had always wanted to pastor a church and indeed did go to seminary at one time, but then after agonizing in prayer the Lord kept pressuring me to choose. I asked the Lord for wisdom on HOW DO I CHOOSE? – His answer was this – “Watch and see which one is willing to kill the other, and even in my name”. I watched and I saw the ragamuffins weren’t carrying bibles, but they had the true word of God written upon their hearts and they could minister a word “IN SEASON” at any given moment. I saw they had the ear of God, because they were pure in heart and God was with them. They weren’t in thousand dollar suits, because they weren’t trying to be a “somebody” – they came as they were – in their jeans and t-shirts and smudged with the dirt of their everyday normal lives. Two groups – one was dirty on the outside, but clean on the inside – the other was clean on the outside but DIRTY on the inside, because as I saw these ragamuffins get called to God’s work the hatred of the Bible packing, pulpit pounding, holiness freaks rose up in their hearts and they turned and began to murder those of the other group. I then had the answer to my agonizing question – which group should I align myself to – the group that would be murdered rather than the group that would choose to murder. And let me say this – The Lord said that He that hateth his brother is WORSE THAN A MURDERER – so if you find yourself hating what I have said here – it is time to take some serious personal inventory. And let me also clarify and state very succinctly I am not against churches and pastors and organized groups of believers. I AM NOT – nor is that my message. What I am saying is that it is; and always has been, the breeding ground of religious zealots that do end up murdering others, as has been the case down through history.
I am writing all these words to try convey understanding about who will carry the nature of Christ. Who are; or who will be the truly called and chosen ones of God. Again, please do not stretch my words out to mean things I am NOT saying. We are all called to witness and we are all called to carry a measure of Christ and to walk in that portion of Christ that is in us. So, I am not preaching some elitist rubbish – but it is true there are elements in the plans of God that are yet to unfold and part of those plans I believe will entail these that will carry the fullness of Christ – if for no other reason I will cite the 144,000 as a company yet to come on the scene. Who are they and really what will they be like? Am I talking about these? I really don’t know. We’ll see.
The point is that no one can get there by efforts of the flesh. It will rely totally upon the Grace of God and whom He chooses. We will see yet clear examples of the nature of Christ yet walk upon the earth as the gathering in of the harvest comes nearer its fulfillment.
Revelations are being released. Let God have reign upon the earth. Let the power of Salvation and the Gospel of Christ cover the earth once again before His return – Amen.
April 9, 2004 – Continued Visions in the night last night again and again the kind of Love that cannot be natural. This one was very extensive and very long – taking most of the night. It involved a great number of young people that seemed very “gravitated” toward me. My heart aches to wake up from these and find that this love begins to subside again in my waking state. These young people ranged from about twelve to about 20 and I deeply loved and was personally engaged in each one of their lives. If this much love was all that Heaven had to offer me – it would suffice for eternity, but I know Heaven is also infinitely greater, but what portion I am receiving in visions in the night seems to be that full portion that is possible on earth – at least that is what I have come to be convinced of. There were massive amounts of details and imagery in the visions last night – too much to list or even try figure out at this point. I can only pray further in regards to these visions and what the purpose is that I keep receiving them. I feel almost like I had another night of vision last night because I took the time yesterday to write about the ones from the night before and to address the issue of the Manifest Sons of God concept. I simply do not know what to do about them from here, but I continue to pray for this portion to become a reality and if not with me than with others who may be a more appropriate choice.